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pinkfoil
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Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 12:15 am |
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| amberdawnn wrote: |
Why this was not a good speech:
1. First if you want to be taken seriously of why Bratz are not a bad influence on you, stick to that subject. You only address the way the dolls dress and why parents shouldn’t harp on how trashy the dolls dress. I do not see in this why you feel that the dolls do not influence the way you dress, talk, act, if you wear makeup or not. I do not see where you talk about if they have or have not influenced your social life, your choice of education path or other major life decisions.
2. Make sure you have all the facts. In this I’m meaning: You continually slam adults saying “parents hate Bratz dolls”. First do you know that all parents hate the dolls? Or are you being biased on your interactions with a select few? Have you polled the entire adult population of your state or country?
3. Barbie and Bratz are dolls that are aimed at young women to be role models, in that they have glamorous careers, the guys notice them, they have the greatest friends, etc. Barbie has had a huge variety of careers over the years, venturing out from her first career of being a fashion model which has helped to ease the blow to her reputation.
4. It is not Bratz or Barbie that dresses themselves, but either the toy manufacturer (which sadly in today’s word is comprised mostly of men and they are going to dress girls dolls the way they hope a girl will dress – if they like the tramp look they are going to use a doll to inspire in young impressionable girls that dressing like a tramp is “cute”), and girls dress the dolls after they purchase them with the clothing sold by the toy manufacturers and see my above comment in regards to that.
5. If Bratz is not an influence on the way you dress or act then why are the “trashy” clothes the ones that sell in the stores? Why do so many young girls think that they can look as hot as their Bratz dolls? Why do they feel the only way to get a guy to notice them is by dressing like an adult streetwalker and hiding their faces with makeup? – all these things are done by/with fashion dolls.
Sadly Bratz are a doll aimed at young girls who are still developing a sense of fashion and what is attractive. When I walk down the aisle in a store and see these dolls on the shelf I see the appearance of the doll NOT anything to do with personality, inner beauty, mental and emotional strength. No you just have this cute/hot/sexy doll staring down at you out of its box and first impressions make the strongest impression even for a toy. The first impression Bratz give off is “I’m a self-centered, hot, sexy tramp that you can’t even come close to being like.”
It is not that parents hate the dolls as a toy but they hate the dolls as what they portray at first look and they worry about their daughters trying to look like a doll that they love and becoming depressed or upset because they can’t achieve it, leading to eating disorders as well as mental disorders and inferiority complex.
Parents want their daughters to grow up and be strong, well adjusted, individuals that know what they want out of life. They don’t want daughters that feel the only way they can make it in life is to dress like a doll and act like a doll – flat, void of life, and only there to please others. |
... Wow amberdawn, spend three hours working on that? ...
Im very sorry mewmewzo, but i have to agree with her ( so very sorry mewmewzo ) . I know a person who has an eating disorder and i feel bad for that person. That person was so very pretty, until weight caught up with that person. When someone goes through that and you are right at that persons side, it makes you hate anything that tries to tell people '' your not pretty. '' and i now realize that amberdawn is right, considering the fact that they are stuck up little snobs. I mean, genie magic? I know i would never be able to dress that way, or ill never be able to dress up as a roch star, because i am too fat, and if i wear anything tight and cute, i pay the price for that with self - asteem. And when you look at these dolls,you see Very nice girls, but with a sexy awe to it, and thats not a good sign to people who are 6. But when people who are 6 see it, they think, '' Skinny, sexy clothes, boys. '' And when a CHILD sees that, they think they HAVE to grow up like that. But who in the right mind will put that in front of a child? And continuing from the part about , '' It is not that parents hate the dolls as a toy but they hate the dolls as what they portray at first look and they worry about their daughters trying to look like a doll that they love and becoming depressed or upset because they can’t achieve it, leading to eating disorders as well as mental disorders and inferiority complex.'' Well, according to the many books ive read about Anorexia and Bulimia, Its basically comes from wanting to be skinny, when they see so many pretty and thin people and they feel they are too fat for anything, they will starve themselves, or make themselves throw up everything until they see blood.
So amberdawn has a point here, And i agree with every word in your post amberdawn, and i have to give you credit, i bet that took a long time.
But mewmewzo, im so very sorry, but she has a point.
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mewmewzo
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Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 4:19 pm |
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| amberdawnn wrote: |
Why this was not a good speech:
1. First if you want to be taken seriously of why Bratz are not a bad influence on you, stick to that subject. You only address the way the dolls dress and why parents shouldn’t harp on how trashy the dolls dress. I do not see in this why you feel that the dolls do not influence the way you dress, talk, act, if you wear makeup or not. I do not see where you talk about if they have or have not influenced your social life, your choice of education path or other major life decisions.
2. Make sure you have all the facts. In this I’m meaning: You continually slam adults saying “parents hate Bratz dolls”. First do you know that all parents hate the dolls? Or are you being biased on your interactions with a select few? Have you polled the entire adult population of your state or country?
3. Barbie and Bratz are dolls that are aimed at young women to be role models, in that they have glamorous careers, the guys notice them, they have the greatest friends, etc. Barbie has had a huge variety of careers over the years, venturing out from her first career of being a fashion model which has helped to ease the blow to her reputation.
4. It is not Bratz or Barbie that dresses themselves, but either the toy manufacturer (which sadly in today’s word is comprised mostly of men and they are going to dress girls dolls the way they hope a girl will dress – if they like the tramp look they are going to use a doll to inspire in young impressionable girls that dressing like a tramp is “cute”), and girls dress the dolls after they purchase them with the clothing sold by the toy manufacturers and see my above comment in regards to that.
5. If Bratz is not an influence on the way you dress or act then why are the “trashy” clothes the ones that sell in the stores? Why do so many young girls think that they can look as hot as their Bratz dolls? Why do they feel the only way to get a guy to notice them is by dressing like an adult streetwalker and hiding their faces with makeup? – all these things are done by/with fashion dolls.
True.
Sadly Bratz are a doll aimed at young girls who are still developing a sense of fashion and what is attractive. When I walk down the aisle in a store and see these dolls on the shelf I see the appearance of the doll NOT anything to do with personality, inner beauty, mental and emotional strength. No you just have this cute/hot/sexy doll staring down at you out of its box and first impressions make the strongest impression even for a toy. The first impression Bratz give off is “I’m a self-centered, hot, sexy tramp that you can’t even come close to being like.”
It is not that parents hate the dolls as a toy but they hate the dolls as what they portray at first look and they worry about their daughters trying to look like a doll that they love and becoming depressed or upset because they can’t achieve it, leading to eating disorders as well as mental disorders and inferiority complex.
Parents want their daughters to grow up and be strong, well adjusted, individuals that know what they want out of life. They don’t want daughters that feel the only way they can make it in life is to dress like a doll and act like a doll – flat, void of life, and only there to please others. |
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pinkfoil
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Well the company is the one at fault. They are making outfits that make the parents angry.
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