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{Request} elixir guide
punksushi
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I'm having problems with elixirs and I'm requesting for someone to right a guide on them, someone who really knows them inside out. And since I'm here I guess I'll post my problem Cool I took a lvl 1, then a level 2. I took another level 2, and it didn't do anything at all >< it just disappeared. (waste of 130,000g) All I got out of this was +2 to my stat. I know taht from taking a lvl 1, and two level 2's I can get a max of +12 Shocked Shocked and a minumum of 3. But I got a two. . . Can I re-eat a level 1 and 2 elixir? or maybe erase the + stats and reroll my elixir eating session so that I can get closer to the +12 on my stat? I'm so confused and used so much money just for a pathetic +2. . . I really need a guide THANKS!

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Sojiro810
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ummm from what i know about elixirs is that u can get max +2 stats from a Lv1 1 elixir and a max +3 boost on stats on a Lv2...even if all of them did add up yeliding the max stat u can get, the most you would have gotten is +8 not 12...anyways thats not how elixirs work .... you can only get the stat bonus from your most previous elixir consumption of each elixir level u use...

basically its liek this:
Lv1: +1 or +2
Lv2: +1 or +2 or +3
Lv3: +1 or +2 or +3 or +4
etc.....

so say u get a +2 on your first Lv1 elixir putting you with a 2 stat, now you eat a Lv2 u have a total of +4... means u got +2 on the Lv2 elixir... now say u chance it again and eat another Lv2 elixir and get a total of +3 now means u got a +1 on that Lv2 elixir u just used overriding the one previous(+2) ...which means buying 10 Lv1 elixirs and consumming them all would only still give u a max of +2 instead of a possible +5-+20...

hope it helps
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DarkCrisis
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Ah, so what your saying is that you only need to take one lvl 1 elixer for that stat and the only way to get it any higher would be to get a lvl 2 elixer of that stat. So if you got a +2 on your level 1 elixer you shouldn't take anymore since thats the best bonus you can recieve. Am I right?
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I'd link you to my boards, and to my guide, but, they are doing server upgrading right now so its down.


Yes, your correct. You must use Lv1 first, then lvl 2, then lvl 3 and so on. BUT!, you will want to max out each lvl before moving to the next.


My guide will need some editing also, as I have noticed now, when you use an elixer, you become "intoxicated" and you need to wait until that is back to '0' (zero) before using another or you increase your chances for a low/failure outcome.

Hope this helps. Check my 'www' button when it works and look at my guides section.

Ciao!

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potamic
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You say you want to max it before you move onto the next one.

Lets say I take a level 1, and get +2. I then use a level 2 and get a +1.

I'm asking can the elixir effect get worse? As in go down? Or the only two ways it can go is up or stay the same?
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taalon927
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yes elixers have a chance to fail just like a weapon but instead of your charecture blowing up into little pieces you lose the state... IE

If you get a lv1 and say it was a +2 an fails, you now get a -2 so in essence if you have really crappy luck you could end up at -20 stat pts...

Now what im wondering is if Lv 1 = +1 or +2 and i get +1 success that if im tring for that godly +20 total, i should take another level 1 to get the max off it which is +2.... since you say each level elixer replaces the previous it would make sence if your tring hard for +20 youd do each level elixer till you get the max pts it can give even if it takes 20 tries....
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punksushi
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I'm absorbing a lot of info here. . . thx.

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I can't find any more solid information on elixirs, so if anyone can share their personal experience, that would be great.

What's the approximate distribution for the stat gain/loss when you take them? I've taken at least 6 of the Level 1 stat boosters and they've all been +1, which is definitely possible not probable if the chances are just 50/50, which I doubt. Do I need to start using the supplemental elixirs starting at Level 1 already? I had hoped to save those for later levels.

On a similar note, how many elixirs can you take after using 1 supplemental elixir? I assume you should probably wait until intoxication goes back to 0 before taking the next one even though 10 and 20 still reads "normal." I've noticed that intoxication can increase quite a bit even after taking one if you take them in a row (even after waiting until 0 each time) so the game remembers that you recently took one.
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punksushi
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I've got something to add to this guide:

I've had many characters and have eaten many elixers. Probably upwards towards 12-15. And of every single one I never got the higher end stat boost. I always got 1 on a level 1, and a 1 on a level 2.
There is supposed to be a chance you get +2 on a level 1 elixir, and a +2/+3 on a level 2 elixir. Never got it. I think you have to pay the extra 120k to buy the elixir supplement just to get the higher end stat boost. And that is the lowest price I've seen it. I've seen upwards of 300k for that thing.

Beware, if you want the higher stat boost of elixirs, you must buy the supplements. Elixirs are an expensive investment.

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it's a matter of luck, done str, dex and con elixirs..got lvl1 str+2, lvl2 str+3, dex+1 and +2, con+2 and +2..without supplement, but i think that you will need supplement on higher lvl elixirs. like with the refining..you can make a +3 weapon, but the higher you go the harder it gets, so i suppose till lvl2 ..maybe even lvl3 elixirs you can take chances...well lvl 3 is not an option for me right now...i'm poor) .
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I think its karma and wisdom skill based. I have taken about 8 lvl 1 elixirs(5on 1 character 3 on another) and only got +1 only once all the others were +2. Althought it could be just a coincidence the time i got +1 was when i had 15wisdom. All the other times i got a healer/nuker wisdom buff + pocket full of wisdom items+my own hybrid buffs(=35+wisdom)+55karma. For the lvl2s i got +3stats 5/8 times and +2stats 2/8.

I got +1 from a lvl 2 only once again with the 15 wisdom and 20pt intoxicated. I had to drink 3 lvl2 elixirs to the max +3stats. Each one gave me +1. When it was all done i had something like 50+ intoxicated. At that time also i had about 20karma.

Since there is no official word from acclaim about this we can only speculate about how to take elixirs. You can try my method though and see how it works out for you. This worked well with my 2 hybrid classes. I have no clue if it works with another. It could be based off ur worst stat(eg warrior/essence).

Btw u can only get +2 from lvl 1 elixir, +3 from lvl 2 and so on. If u mouse over the yellow +* stat on ur character sheet it will show u when u have the max like this.

Strength +4 lvl 1 +2(maxed)
lvl2 +2

This means u can drink another lvl 2 elixir for the maxed +3.
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chatterbox88
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i am really blurred about these elixirs thing..cant really understand

i have eaten an lvl1 essence elixir, and get a +2 from it..so i have already max it for lvl1 and i should go take a lvl2 elixir right?

anyway, i have already eaten the lvl2 essence elixir and get a +1 from it..( total +3 )

so i should continue taking a lvl2 eesence elixir until i get a total of +5 right?

anyway what are supplements, and for what and how should / do i use it?

edit: if i fail my elixir, i will get a minus bonus instead right? by using an elixir of same lvl, i can remove the minus bonus and get a plus bonus if i am lucky right?
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Seawolf
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Eh, I hate elixirs. I finally decided to try a nonessential stat and got a +2. I had 4 karma because I stupidly died on something earlier. I can't get more easily from PvP because I don't think I can win against anyone except maybe an OC level healer. Then, I tried the stat that I wanted to increase and got +1 again. *sigh*

I'm in one of the 3 classes that doesn't need WIS, so I'm not going to increase it that much even buffed.

chatterbox: Yes, theoretically, you're supposed to take the elixirs until max for that level. You're not going to fail your elixirs for any sort of high probability for these starting ones unless you drink them with high intoxication, but yes, just use another to wipe the minus once your intox goes back down.
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im not sure whether to leave the lvl2 bonus at +2 or waste more cash trying for the +3
can i move onto lvl 3 elixirs and still come back and try to get +3 on lvl2 elixirs later on?

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Well, I am feeling quite lucky now. I got a lvl 2 elxir from drop so I went and bought a lvl 1. (first time with elixirs) Took the lvl 1 and got a +2 (I have 0 Karma btw). I took the second one immediately...didn't know I should wait...and got another +2 for a total of +4.

Based on my Karma I am going to guess that Karma doesn't play into elixirs much.

--For anyone who would like to know...I have 0 Karma because I was house sitting and wanted to play more than I wanted to have high karma. The connection was pathetic and I got at least 1 lag death an hour....and that was when I could connect. Yes, it is embarrassing....but I am back home (Thank the Lord) and expect my Karma to start jumping.--

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