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ashura2501
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Hi.

What`s the best build for an Hybrid (Sacred Flower in my case )???
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kontei
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3 days ago i started a BoT hybrid. I'm going for the strength build: ~1500hp, ~500vit / dex for weapon requirements and rest in strength. Actually i'm killing mobs like a tornado, but i'm only OC10 at the moment so i cannot say what future (RL+) will bring. Although many people say that 1500hp and 500vit is enough, i can't believe it really. In my opinion 500 vit is too less, especially when meditation and steps are activated. Regarding the 1500hp i have to see wheter it is enough or not. Can't really believe it, too. Later mobs that aggro a lot and do crazy damage (like stone- and axedemons) will become a big problem i think. And when you're between 3 or 4 of them (that happens very often there) and all of them hit you, you'll probably die immediately.

But thats only an appraisal. It would be very nice, if a FD+ who uses this pure strength-build could give a little feedback.
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In my opinion 500 vit is too less, especially when meditation and steps are activated.


i dont keep med and steps on while lvling. those few extra goodies u get mean very little even at skill lvl 10. the 2+2 mana per second is far too much in this sence.

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I think the main thing is almost equal HP and VE and alot of training on buffs and heals. The way I play I run out of VE and still have 100% life because of heals. Just to train them a little more while not just sitting there at base. Pusing two butoons 75 times each Sad. But It pays off in the long run. Alot of str is good for PvE but against a DEX nuild will get owned. Plus with a LoB hyrid you get a con buff (I'm not sure about others) so as of right now I have almost nothing in CON and pretty balenced in DEX and STR.

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kontei wrote:
Although many people say that 1500hp and 500vit is enough, i can't believe it really. In my opinion 500 vit is too less, especially when meditation and steps are activated. Regarding the 1500hp i have to see wheter it is enough or not. Can't really believe it, too. Later mobs that aggro a lot and do crazy damage (like stone- and axedemons) will become a big problem i think. And when you're between 3 or 4 of them (that happens very often there) and all of them hit you, you'll probably die immediately.


A couple of things to remember, though.

1) You get ranged ck skills which allow you to have a bit more control over the creatures that can/will agro you (not total control, but it's often possible to pull a single or small group of mobs instead of having to walk into the midst of a big crowd of them).

2) You get a self-heal buff which (if you keep it leveled up) does an excellent job of keeping you healed up as you fight.

3) You get an all-stats buff (with 30 min duration) which gives you a very nice boost to all your stats (up to 15 normally - 19 with special advanced skill tomes which may or may not have been implemented yet). That gives you a very nice boost to your hit points and VE without you having to spend a single point on Con or Ess.

These things (plus the right equipment) let you function quite well with limited chi points assigned to con/ess, leaving more for str and dex.
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kontei
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maguall wrote:

A couple of things to remember, though.

1) You get ranged ck skills which allow you to have a bit more control over the creatures that can/will agro you (not total control, but it's often possible to pull a single or small group of mobs instead of having to walk into the midst of a big crowd of them).

2) You get a self-heal buff which (if you keep it leveled up) does an excellent job of keeping you healed up as you fight.

3) You get an all-stats buff (with 30 min duration) which gives you a very nice boost to all your stats (up to 15 normally - 19 with special advanced skill tomes which may or may not have been implemented yet). That gives you a very nice boost to your hit points and VE without you having to spend a single point on Con or Ess.

These things (plus the right equipment) let you function quite well with limited chi points assigned to con/ess, leaving more for str and dex.


I'm most worried about the right equipment, that you mentioned. All i have is one frozen sea tiger's ring ,one +2 to all item and a +60vit/+60cons pants. Personally i think it is too risky (for me) to put not a single point in cons and ess. Regarding ess, i think desert is right when he said it is not bearable to activate med and steps while leveling. But concerning the cons, i'll probably go to a maximum of 2000hp. Could be a disadvantage at very high levels, but even Lentz himself said that it is very difficult to level from FD1 - mid SM when using his guide.
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ashura2501
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Actualy i have 100 str, 55 dex, 60 const , 30 ess.
I´m RC 9 Mistress of the cloud, is good or bad?????
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ashura2501 wrote:
Actualy i have 100 str, 55 dex, 60 const , 30 ess.
I´m RC 9 Mistress of the cloud, is good or bad?????


Too much con/ess ^^

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ummm......I have 30 dex and 200 STR and I can tank up to 6 white mobs,and kill them in 3 hits*with fists* this is just a PvP build though,its usless to make a PvP build at early lvls since everyone will eventually max out there stats.
P.S*the reason why I rarely miss with this build is because my I have a high lvl buff that increases alll stats by 7,and good relics,plus Shaolins basic Protection adds attack rate,wich is the rate you attack*
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Kay, here's my take on a hybrid's build.

Hybrids get a +35hp bonus.
Hybrids get a con buff.

Which means, it lets you keep your CON to a minimum of at least 12 until you hit FD. (Of course, you need to get good accessories, clothes and relics so that you don't have super low HP)

ESS is a different story. You may need at least 15-20 depending on the level of your all-stat buff. VE lets you last longer training instead of medding all the time. Since you have heals, you only med when you're out of VE. But still, keep ESS to a maximum of 20.

WIS - forget it. Your Chi Kung attacks are used for pulling, ATM. PvP is a completely different story. But you can up your wis with relics and buffs. So Just get it to 10 at RC and 12 at FD to equip relics.

Focus on STR at early levels (before FD) for easy levelling. Try to avoid orange mobs since you're gonna miss a lot on them.

As for DEX, I personally just pick out a weapon I want to use for a certain level, and then follow its DEX requirements.

I can't guarantee anything here, these are only my opinions. Try to test things out and see what fits you best.

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ashura2501
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thnx
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camiangel
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Ess is good at at griding, CONST u dont need to worry about, cause u can use the buff which add a lot of CONST, wisdom.. as said... forget it... its up to u.. STR.. or DEX... some says dex sucks.. some says str sucks... i wanna try to max out my Protection of Gold first... and then lvl up the reflection buff.. till cheng 5 at least... and then test it.. and see the results...
but do not forfet to lvl up the smashing and charged too....

Hybrids are a little hard to build... and to play.. but so funny... :p
seeya!
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kontei
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camiangel wrote:
Ess is good at at griding, CONST u dont need to worry about, cause u can use the buff which add a lot of CONST, wisdom.. as said... forget it... its up to u.. STR.. or DEX... some says dex &#!@.. some says str &#!@... i wanna try to max out my Protection of Gold first... and then lvl up the reflection buff.. till cheng 5 at least... and then test it.. and see the results...
but do not forfet to lvl up the smashing and charged too....

Hybrids are a little hard to build... and to play.. but so funny... :p
seeya!


Sorry, but disagree in almost all points. Embarassed
I would never level the reflection buff and the charged. The charged eventually for PVP, but only if you have too much time. Wink
And why are Hybrids hard to play???
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nixton
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personally I like a bit strength heavy build 10 points or so over dex. Then add points into ess & con to keep everything running. Having the extra ess helps grinding out buffs & keeping others running the extra hp to keep from feeling so squishy. I solo most yellow mobs with ease at RC10, and can still function in a team as a healer/buffer. I crit quite often on yellow mobs and completely destroy whites & below for the most part. Personally I'm going for the ability to solo and function in a team and do it without as much sacrafice as playing with myself all the time.
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alemulet
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1 - max self buff at cheng10 = +31 con, plus def and damage
2 - max your heal at cheng10 or at lest cheng9 in fd lvls
3 - max your all in one buff = +15 all stat
4 - str build for pve with dex for weapon, lvl in white-yellow mobs
5 - for pve forget meditation/step on, useless and drain a lot ve
6 - only active for pve, smashes/chi kung/charge only drain ve and slow your grind
7 - 20 ess/25 con at fd lvl with selfbuff/all in one buff maxed is really enough
8 - if you can, hp clothes, relics are very good

just it, simple
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