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drifterxion
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Ten rules to make your money problems a little lighter

Rule one.This rule is a touchy subject though important. Do not buy from player shops without thinking. Around 65% of players tend to overprice. If you insist on buying from a player shop at the very least check around for other prices both in other player shops and in the game shops.

Rule two. Sell only Weapons gained through rewards (aka killing and getting a weapon as a dropped item) unless your close to your goal

Rule Three Sell Rewarded weapons UNLESS they are your particular weapons just strong (aka higher level) hold onto them it saves the expense of buying new ones which get insanely expensive the higher levels you go. Also buy every other weapon avalible. Not every one. Cuts down on money. Its not hard to fight with a weapon a few levels below you. Better save gold for the next increase in major difficulty.

Rule Four Save beast drops (aka furs skins etc) for clan donations More bang for your buck that way.

Rule FiveDo not Buy Clothes from INgame shops. They offer no change in your stats other then pockets which you can get fairly easily with quest items. Its a drain on your wallet

Rule Six Make Frenquent money runs. Find a place that the monsters drop good loot and are within your level range so you will get skill gains and possible rewarded weapons to bolster your wallet

Rule Seven Dont always jump at the chance to do Chi breathing as soon as it becomes avalible. Use that stall in growth to take advantadge by pounding away at monsters for rewarded weapons whil massively boosting your skills.

Rule Eight Know the Area. Know which mobs are good for exp and which good for loot/rewarded weapons. Know your access points for resting and for pete sakes dont clog up the same areas where every one levels. Find secluded areas that offer the same mobs. They respawn faster AND you dont have to fight/steal other people's items/kills it makes it an easier place for us all. Not to mention slowing down lag in hot spots

Rule Nine Be nice. Some people give items they are done with to lower level players. If your a jerk no one wants to be in the vicintiy or even on the same server with you. That opportunity for a free weapon or accessory is wasted because you just had to make a joke about their momma. Joke's on you moron.

Rule Ten Buy Items in Bulk. Cheaper items are still effective if used correctly. Buy lots (max is 255 per slot I think) and they'll last you several days at a fraction of the price of several of the stronger items
Example Stanching herb - heals 20 external wounds. Sells for 10 gold each
255 X 10 = 2550 Does that NOT save you time and money?
you can stay out in the field and gather more thing before needing to return to town. thus higher income rate and less time wasted of running back and forth to buy more of those expensive herbs that cost a bundle every time you do it.
I did that purchase I was out for at least 12 hours each for two days before I had to go back and buy more. Took me quite awhile and I was fighting those nasty little red foxes that hit criticals 1/3 times they attack.
>>Sidenote<< The higher your wound count (100 and up) the % of the price you pay is around 50%. 400 wounds = 200 gold. Just incase you didnt stay on top of managing your wounds while in the field.

The final Rule Technically its the 11th but this applies to everything including real life so its not exactly part of the ten rules.
Be patient! evetually your patience will be rewarded for your hard work. In game your character will not only have the best weapons at the point also have cash to spare in case of an emergency not to mention your skills will be very high. This cant be beat. Granted you got to resist hurting someone so have a sibiling around to pummle or even better multitask like watching tv every 20 min so you dont get bored!

[Note: this is also posted in the Newbie Zone as to gather attentions and comments I'll be updating this as I get opinions and comments regarding the topic. This is an opinionated strategy take no offense


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Rule Five This is important. DO NOT buy from player shops. about 98% of the time the items are so overpriced you could buy finance the outfiting of a whole team with the extras. Better not to jump at those cool items. You'll get them in time yourself. [Yeah this discourages players from buying. Sorry guys but maybe you should lower your prices]


Please make this rule #1.

It's rediculous what are players trying to sell at abnormal prices. I've already posted here - do not buy Wu-Tang LF for 50K+. It's not the fair price. That tome is not so rare - I looted it twice before I could even apply it on me. Another example are lvl1 elixirs - don't pay for those 100K or more - you can buy those in your basic village from the doctor at the same price.
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drifterxion wrote:

Rule Ten Buy Items in Bulk. Cheaper items are still effective if used correctly. Buy lots (max is 225 per slot I think) and they'll last you several days at a fraction of the price of several of the stronger items


Minor Correction: the max is 255.

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It's rediculous what are players trying to sell at abnormal prices. I've already posted here - do not buy Wu-Tang LF for 50K+. It's not the fair price. That tome is not so rare - I looted it twice before I could even apply it on me. Another example are lvl1 elixirs - don't pay for those 100K or more - you can buy those in your basic village from the doctor at the same price.


You can actually buy that in the clan shop where the guy teaches you clan meditation for under 1000 gold if I remeber correctly :p

And thanks for both of your comments I apperciate it. Anything else you can think off I'll add either a new section to it
even if its just locations/names of mobs that drop good loot. I want to have more then just my opinion on this board Wink
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Are you guys all noobs or something? Seriously, Rule 1 is crap.

Wu-Tang Lightfoot IS worth 50k. Why is it worth 50k? Because the economy has set that price. If you can't pay it, then that's really too bad. You shouldn't make a post here ranting about player shops just because you can't afford it. And contrary to what you guys are saying, it CAN'T be found "in that clan shop where the guy teaches you clan meditation for under 1000 gold."

Of course, level 1 elixirs are only worth 35k or so, and 100k is definitely overcharging, but you can't buy them in your "basic village from the doctor"....? I have no idea where you got that from....Do you even know what elixirs are?

Player shops in Hefei are almost always selling at an average economically determined price. Its the basic law of supply and demand. If you charge too high, you won't sell it, and eventually you'll have to lower it to a reasonable price.

Waiting for drops doesn't work most of the time either. Weapons are rare, and the chance that you'll get a drop of the weapon that you are currently using is even lower. And the chance of that being a blue weapon (the only ones I think are worth using) are even lower.

The conclusion is: ALWAYS buy from player stalls. Never buy from the blacksmith. Do you really want to pay 44300 for a Moon Sword? Because I'll sell one for 15k.

Aside from the first rule, the others aren't pretty good and useful.

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Have you bothered to check with the starting village doctor??? Rolling Eyes
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Are you guys all noobs or something? Seriously, Rule 1 is crap.

Wu-Tang Lightfoot IS worth 50k. Why is it worth 50k? Because the economy has set that price. If you can't pay it, then that's really too bad. You shouldn't make a post here ranting about player shops just because you can't afford it. And contrary to what you guys are saying, it CAN'T be found "in that clan shop where the guy teaches you clan meditation for under 1000 gold."


First off when I was talking about the basic one. The advanced version I'd rather get from my drops then from wasting my money.

AS for player shops/in game shops. the point of this guide is to not buy from the shops if at all possible. Weapon rewards are much cheaper. still I've found more then my share of people selling their weapons WAY too high as well as anything else. Its a horrible basis everyone tries to sucker everyone else and its really worthless. I have found its much easier to get weapon rewards sell/trade them to get what you want.

I misunderstood as the lightfoot comment. There is a shop selling the basic tome for LF up to lv 3 for under 1000 gold and thats what I had mentioned.

Please do not assume people are newbies just because you disagree with them.
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What I wanna know is how are you gonna say don't buy from people than say I sell/trade to get what I want?
And with so many people at the market selling why no shop around? I spent 30k for items to complete a collection quest than turned around and sold the lvl2 elixir for 120k, is that not good market use?!

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ipsl wrote:
What I wanna know is how are you gonna say don't buy from people than say I sell/trade to get what I want?
And with so many people at the market selling why no shop around? I spent 30k for items to complete a collection quest than turned around and sold the lvl2 elixir for 120k, is that not good market use?!


Except now you just deprived yourself on a lvl 2 elixir that you might've needed. When you go to buy that from the marketplace it's going to be rare that you can buy one for 120k.

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Are you guys all noobs or something? Seriously, Rule 1 is crap.

Wu-Tang Lightfoot IS worth 50k. Why is it worth 50k? Because the economy has set that price. If you can't pay it, then that's really too bad. You shouldn't make a post here ranting about player shops just because you can't afford it. And contrary to what you guys are saying, it CAN'T be found "in that clan shop where the guy teaches you clan meditation for under 1000 gold."


THis is a bit over the top. The "prices" in hefei ARE unreasonable precisely because the item is still in their shop. Sometimes you may run across an ok deal, but that is the exception not the rule. Most of the stuff in heifei IS overpriced. That being said, buying from player stalls is still an advantage at lower levels if the price of the weapon falls in between NPC sell back price and NPC buy price.

Most of the "rules" in the OP's post aren't really that useful to begin with but at least you can generate a discussion on it.
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The prices in Hefei are fine. I can find lots of reasonable prices when I go there.

Please keep up with the prices. They change constantly, and whatever price the economy establishes is always correct. Theres isn't any use ranting or complaining that things are overpriced, because if they were, nobody would be buying them, and the sellers lose.

The argument that prices are unreasonable because they are still in a shop is a logical fallacy, because that means that every price is unreasonable, because all items have been in a shop...unless you get items by trading.

Weapons that you get from a drop are NOT cheaper than those you buy from a store. Say a weapon that you get from a drop is worth 20k. In using that weapon, you are passing up the opportunity to sell it and gain 20k.

And I'm not calling you a newbie because you disagree with my viewpoint. I'm calling you a newbie because only newbies rant about items being too expensive.... If you play the game for any significant amount of time, you'll learn to take the prices as the market sells them. Seriously, when's the last time you've seen a high-level player complain about the price of weapons in Hefei?

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hmmm awsome guide and it work ><

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bobarian wrote:
Have you bothered to check with the starting village doctor??? Rolling Eyes


Are you sure those are elixer lvl 1?
I will go back to my clan village to check it out tonite.
But I'm pretty sure I didn't see them when I started.
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Are you guys all noobs or something? Seriously, Rule 1 is crap.

Wu-Tang Lightfoot IS worth 50k. Why is it worth 50k? Because the economy has set that price....


Economy has set it? No. Greedy ppl have set it. It is definetly not worth 50K, and message to all - DON'T BUY IT FOR THAT PRICE! Too bad not all players will see what's written here.
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Economy has set it? No. Greedy ppl have set it. It is definetly not worth 50K, and message to all - DON'T BUY IT FOR THAT PRICE! Too bad not all players will see what's written here.


Meh, it exists in all MMORPGs I know of. Listen, the more popular that stuff is, means that stuff is more in demand, and because of this high demand the price increases. WT lightfoot is not overpriced, it's high in demand, that is why you find it expensive. Even in reality, every markets do that too. If you want cheap stuff, maybe taking BoT healer/hybrid female will be a better idea, since it's the least famous class I known of.
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