Well, it seems everyone that does not have a nuker yells and screams about how unfair everything is now days. Ok, so maybe I have those thoughts myself. It seems pretty clear that waiting around for the game mechanics to get changed it probably a pretty bad way to go. So, what can us players do?

How about a strike on buffing and healing nukers?

Why give an over powered class more power, we complain about it, then we give them buffs and heal them in dungeons and on bosses, thus giving them more power.

+50 str and more wisdom than god makes them ultra powerful. I say, let them live off what they have, which is more than enough. Maybe someday they will appreciate healers and hybrids for more than karma.

What do you guys think?

The way u sound is like nukers are the devils themselves,
i know alot of nukers who appreciate the healer and hybrid buffs.

Reading your post i would say your an idiot literally, because you dont know how hard is to be nuker for example(lets talk about when you are noob ofc below EC :

* You cant solo dungeons- this is actually what every nuker misses alot

* If you arent rich and you cant afford def clothes and relics then yeah....

* okey this is the MOST RETARDED THING FOR NUKER, if you are running in map, you have to ALWAYS use shields otherwise you are dead, kind a funny eh healers/hybrids/warrior



*mob can kill you with 2-3 hits

this is actually what you must suffer before getting EC 8 after that it gets better then we are God like, but to us since OC1-EC8 are healers/hybrids/warrior God like


i am actually so sick of this reading those topics about nuker(oh my god nuker stealed Shen Mo, oh my god nuker stealed true general wei)

And whats with your friends??
whats with war?
Whats with SVS?
No nuker should be buffed? I wanna see your league loosing svs cause you don?t buff em >_> think before you post

I think you missed the point of the thread.

I will try to be more clear. People come and complain in a way it will do no good. But, they have the ability to do a little something about it if they choose to do it themselves.

The thing that many nukers forget is that they need help, and people give it. Shen Mo, dungeons, buffs, heals. But nukers rarely give back. Then they get second role and just go around killing everyone on Asura. For a few this is not true, but overall it is often true.

Another thing. When I play my hybrid I see the following over and over. A healer comes up and would like a buff, so first they buff me. A nuker wants a buff and they cannot be bothered to give a wisdom buff or a damage buff. I would say 90% of the time a nuker asks they do not buff me. If I ask them I get one about 50-60% of the time.

And yes, buff whoever you want. But, don't hop them up on steroids then come here and complain about them being too strong.

Also, yes I already know. Every nuker on here buffs everyone else every chance they get. They give praise to all buffs they get and all the help they get for items and dungeons and everything. It is only the other 80% of nukers to whom I see on the game everyday who are not like that.

And this idiot does have a SM2 nuker. And I can assure you that those god like 1st role healers and hybrids do not kill me every half hour when I grind.

Do remember that there are some cases where refusal from buffing some nukers is futile. Probably an approved philosophy in Bardo and Nirvana, but some players find themselves having to buff for the sake of their peaceful grind, and im afraid as far as most of the melee roles are concerned, not many may consider becoming a martyr to the cause.

And in most cases youll only be slowing down the progress of those nukers under CS9, there still is the debate about the speed of nukers progressive grind at that lvl compared to the other roles. Ironically some melee roles would even say that at that lvl and beyond, they NEED nukers around in shared parties etc in order for themselves to grind faster than usual.

It is a good point that sometimes nukers will not let you grind unless you buff them. Which basically also proves the point that others were trying to speak against.

I am not sure it is a great idea myself. But, I did think, hey, instead of all the complaining, there is actually something melee chars can do which can maybe make some difference. That is part of the beauty of a community game, the players have control of all sorts of things, if they really want it bad enough.

And yes, I am talking about on Asura. Who cares how strong nukers are on other servers, they cannot interupt you all the time when you want to grind and make you waste cards/manuals running back to grind spot. I guess they can ks your mobs on the other servers too, but that is not as bad IMHO.

There's more than one solution to Nukers, but one of the best is hike the prices up. Hell, it works against us Hybrids when it's time to buy Tomes. Look at these bleeping prices we have to contend with. For two tomes that a hybrid needs to help out those around it, you're cruising close to 80mil. Go to Hefei and see how much a lousy pair of gloves go for. Whenever I go to Hefei or wherever on the map, items for nukers go for cheap. Perfect gold nuggets (chi kung) at the most they go for 4 mil. Anything physical, I've seen them as high as 9mil. I hear so much about it being hard to be a nuker when it's time to buy and yet, I don't see it at all. I recently left HZ towards Hefei to find some gloves for my Hybrid and I ran into this sign....



Don't tell me this game isn't gear towards nukers. Go to youtube and see the kind of damage nukers are doing, particularly once they reach FC and beyond. This is no laughing matter. The advantages completely outweigh any so called disadvantage nukers think they may have.

THANKS GM FOR MAKING IT HAPPEN.

+1, and some nukers are noobs, true, but there are alot of warriors, hibr or healers noobs enough too, think before you post something, you can't generalise, in a smaller way you are racist with this role and those players who chose it. Have fun in game and not just in game.

+1

C'mon not all nukers are bad. It's not their fault Acclaim messed it up. I've always been a nuker and did not start one just cuz of pvp imbalanced. I can tell you it is NOT NOT easy for a nuker to grind before 2nd role. It is even harder when you get to cs1+ if you don't have the $$ to get the right gears. There are so many reasons why, so I'm not going there. Why would you want to slow down a nuker? You know the saying "If you can't beat them join them". Make it happen guys, make a nuker and go grind it's already happening. 80% of server are full of nukers. Why not make it a 100%. I heard Acclaim is changing name 9 Dragons to "The 9 chi kung Masters" hint hint if you get what i mean Acclaim .

But seriously, I'm a nuker and buff are not buff don't really matter to me. Buff is always appreciated and I do thank you very much for those who buffed me

this topic is intresting xD

I am still in the hope that one day there will be balance in game and i will keep that in mind until the game is closed xD.
That's a long process tough just imagine how they chek things ?? They test it so that's mean all the lvl all the role all the stuff pffiou that's make a lot of things O_O.

I want to sort out a thing. I think that pvp is quite balance because:

1. This whole thing about nukers are over powerd isn't true it's based on the items that person has, prem, mushrooms, KG, deff cloths and so on. I have made a nuker and I can say that it's quite hard to pvp because if you don't waste good money and get good stuff on it it's difficult to kill higher lvls.

2. Recently there are chi dodge ornaments reliced, I have seen a lot of people using them 440 on deco + 220 shoes + 220 hat + 220 wb + GL attack set (warrior) + good 4 slotted (Yin/Yang/Soul/Body) weapon +6 + they really are pain for high nukers but ofc there are just as bad nukers.

3. If you don't spend money on 9d you probobly going to fail at pvp no matter what role you choose. People who have trigrams, prem, heaps of KG, mushrroms + decos + different kinds of pills they have a good advantage against no matter what role.

4. I remember when I starded playing 9d there was like few nukes and they got pked so easy 3-5 hits usualy. There was no whine back then. But now there is this sertain content that can't stand dieing and starts to complain.

There isn't any unbalance it all comes down to what gear you're using, I've seen hybs killing nukers, I've seen healers killing nukers and most sertanly warriors can do it.

My first character was a hyb all I have to say that it doesn't matter which role a person chooses if he's a kid and comes to 9d to pk, abuse and laugh over weaker oponents he will do it.

I've seen nice people and quite often at least nowadays I see so much 'noob' talk going on if a nuker dies by a lower lvl then him/her. So you should think 'wow a nuker died, perhaps they aren't so strong and perhaps it's really a talk of a whiner who got pked by PS nuker.